“The Political Fallout Shelter is completely dead.”

On this episode of the podcast, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould explain what’s going on with the podcast’s name and what to expect in coming months. They also discuss whether the Defense Department will ever get a replacement for former Secretary Jim Mattis, and how long that process could take.

The two also look at the fight between President Donald Trump and freshman Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over Veterans Affairs policy and discuss plans to decommission the Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier. Finally, the two brainstorm ideas of what to do next with their fallout shelter.

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Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.

Joe Gould was the senior Pentagon reporter for Defense News, covering the intersection of national security policy, politics and the defense industry. He had previously served as Congress reporter.

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